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.Now I wonder if that CPS call about drunken Don on the lawn was true.
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.my thoughts ....
I don't think he cheated.
I do think there may have been some substance abuse. He always liked his Titos and with the back surgery, I could certainly see him getting addicted to pain meds. The Christmas day pic really tells the tale - especially the weight loss. It seriously looks like he's out to lunch in that pic.
I also think Jen going plant based had a hand in it as did her resenting having to birth her spawn.
And of course him not helping around the house due to his back problems - and the fact he was never handy around the house to begin with so Jen had to do it all.
I don’t read into the weight loss - he said he was rapidly shedding his dad bod 2 months prior in his tinder post - so I think it’s at least partly intentional and partly from the inevitable stress of separating/ending his family life as he knew it.
As for how he looked - he looked a little haggard to me - like he got up super early to drive over in his pj’s to be with his kids on Christmas morning (he had a jacket thingy on over his Mickey t-shirt (“babe magnet” - not). Maybe he had a few pops on Christmas Eve. Again, it’s awkward new territory. I also think he was done being in her videos.
If you look up his dad, a former address is listed as a condo/apartment in the same town as Don’s tinder town listing, so I’m wondering if the family owns a condo and he’s living there. It seems relatively close to the house. -
.I don't think the house is paid off, there is a record of a loan in 2013 for $960K
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I don’t think he did cheat. I think like most/all married couples, they had a tacit “agreement” or a “deal” as to how their relationship would take shape. One of them wanted to change that deal and I believe it was Jen. At least that’s what I get from how she’s changed since they had kids (grown I think) and all the (stupid) I am woman, hear me roar quotes she’s been posting. -
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I really thought Jen matured so much since she had the kids. No nannies, no random shopping trips, no Target hauls of back ups of backups; no more archiving Christmas wrapping paper, no decorating like Macy’s storefront.
She seemed less anxious and like she finally had some purpose. Who would have guessed that her maturing away from being essentially a spoiled hoarding teenager would be what doomed her marriage, but I think it was. Don loved the frightened girl who couldn’t make a move without her.
FWIW, I think that Judith did her no good all these years. -
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The house is paid for. He’s making plenty of money to afford her staying there and him buying a condo short term. Not only wont he want to disrupt the kids - that house is very close to his parents, which is a plus for him. I can definitely see Suzanne staying involved and helping Jen out. IMO she has been more of a nurturer to Jen (and the kids) than Jen’s mom. Every comment Jen’s mom makes either on a video or in response to a FB post always is needlessly critical. For instance there was one years ago of the whole family and Jen was holding Winnie. Winnie‘s face was not facing the camera in the picture and although it was a very lovely picture, Jill‘s comment was simply “oh too bad when he was looking away.“ There was another picture of Jan on her personal Facebook page (I believe it was a profile picture) And someone commented how lovely Jen looked in the picture and her mother’s comment was “Scott is a wonderful photographer”
I realize I don’t know these people at all but I have no doubt that every seed of insecurity Jen has ever had came from her mother. I do think that Don was head over heels smitten with her and made it his mission to lavish her with love and attention (and things and defending her on YT) to try to make her feel more secure. -
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I think the plan was always to have 2 kids, ideally 2 years apart and of opposite genders. Even if they were having some issues after CC was born, I’m sure they thought this was transitioning to having a newborn and remember she had issues with walking and standing in physical therapy was involved so I can easily see how this thought it was just a transition time and went ahead with your plans to have a second child -
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Somebody posted earlier that Jen removed “happy wife“ from her IG profile in June 2018. It occurs to me that in a recent video she mentioned that Dawn had spinal fusion surgery about a year and a half ago. That puts it right around the same time/summer 2018. Curious. -
.Uh oh...I just realized something...
Does this mean the end of Camp Julie???
Will Aunt Julie not babysit Winnie anymore?
I am assuming Don will get her in the divorce since she is part of the Ross clan.
I was thinking recently that I don’t remember hearing any news toon of Aunt Julie for a very long time and wondered if she was still in the picture. -
.thanks to ColdOne for the thread title
the video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta0W7xsfTC4
as requested...a marriage breakdown timeline provided by seabass. under a spoiler because it's long:SPOILER (click to view)Well, I created a “marriage breakdown red flag” timeline. My only excuse is I’m traveling for work and it beats talking to strangers in the hotel bar. (Call me, Don!
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It looks like things got shaky about 6 mos after Donny was born, worse in early summer, and quite bad around August.
Here goes....
Key background dates
9/18/13: Tosh episode airs
Oct 2013: Don starts job with NC company where he worked in the dongeon but also did some travel to NC for work
Early 2014: “the poop hits the fan” (general consensus is that this probably involves the HFT investigations and the future of the Ross enterprises)
Dec 2014: Don back to work for Ross company PDQ
12/28/15: Charlotte is born
Oct 2016: Don announced as CEO of PDQ
2018
1/30/18: Donnie is born
*Things start looking a little shaky
June 2018: Drops happy wife from Insta profile
6/8/18: Most epic video to ever hit the Bakery drops. “Conflicted about Eating Meat.” Jen states she has sent this nonsensical hormonal manifesto to her family.
2019
Feb 2019: Dons bday: Insta caption “happy birthday to my darling husband” and mentions 17 years of bdays as a couple
March 2019: Disney
5/10/19: Mothers Day. Photo of all 4 on Insta captioned w “beyond grateful to these three and Winnie for making me a mother”
5/24/19: “Dealing with Doubt” aka “I have no friends” video drops
**Thing start looking pretty bad
June 2019: Hamptons trip which, unusually, she does not film
6/11/19: Insta photo of “summer reading stack” with glennon Doyle and related marriage/divorce/“all about me” authors. Not sure when massive increase in sht quotes started as they were posted in instastories
6/21/19: Father’s Day. Post on Insta saying “happy Father’s Day… We love you“. also references how wonderful he is to play with the kids “as soon as he comes home from a long day at the office”. Incidentally also the day Jen consumed sea creatures.
July 2019: Last photo w Jen and Don together on insta. Photo includes the kids. Cubs game photo on Insta w caption “there were some ups and downs (and I’m not talking about the game) but ultimately we all had fun”
***Things do not look good
August 2019: Utah trip w the Fam. Makes huge deal about unplugging but manically films her PD when alone
End of summer 2019: Fires Judith as she felt “I couldn’t be 100% truthful which should have been a red flag but anyway...”
9/10/19: No post for anniversary
9/22/19: Trip to Eugene with ugly crying all night
10/10/19: Trip with the Fam to Williamsburg
10/22/19: Anxiety video drops. Claims not be vague booking, as she feels called to share but “it’s difficult because I literally cannot share totally transparently right now”.
11/3/19: The day “Princess_” dropped the Bakery bomb to end all bombs. 6 hours later “gurugossipvisitor” drops the “chest hair” photo that, real or fake, shall live in infamy...
In the ensuing chaos, Bakery members also notice all personal items regularly spotted on Don’s nightstand are nowhere to be seen, and Jen once again proves herself to be the master manipulator by flashing her rings and destroying our souls with agonizing detail on Winnie, “running”, and radio silence on the missing hypersexual Donald Ross III.
carry on
Long time lurker. Hadn’t been here for ages (good thing I stored my PW!). Thanks for the recap - the most surprising thing to me was that she removed “happy wife” a year and a half ago! I totally missed that.
I agree with those who say that Jen took on motherhood (and veganism) such that they consumed her and there was no “Wifing” going on - in or out of bedroom. I think it’s not that uncommon but hopefully most people get past the infant/toddler years and realize they are still a couple.
I am truly surprised at the way this turned out because for the longest time Don really seemed to think he caught the brass ring. He totally fawned and doted and wrote poetry and did everything he could for Jen - even at her quirkiest. I wonder when it all changed. I‘m sorry for the kids. And for them. I agree he will remarry within 2 years - 3 tops. Jen’s life was built more around Don’s family than her own (from what I’ve seen of her mother, I can understand that). I think the inevitable change with his family will be very hard for her. Suzanne especially seemed very supportive of Jen. Especially in the years where she’d go to Utah 5 times and reorganize that place. (What will become of the loftice?)
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Hi everyone! Longtime fan @GG. Just came across you here. Been particularly enjoying the Ms. GG thread. I thought I was only one who was like "Wash your hair, lady!"
Anyway...I say definitely not pregnant but ready to try again. No way she wants to be in her 1st trimester for the Disney World trip, IMHO. Maybe she's hoping to conceive in the Magic Kingdom? Then, following the trend of some people who name their children after where they were conceived what would we get...Donald Duck? Lilo? Belle?
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