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.There was never any danger of me using BetterHelp anyway, since I've heard negative things about them for years, but them continuing to use Jess for paid promotions when they have to know that she has NEVER used the service really seals the deal. She has absolutely no shame. After her last BetterHelp paid promotion fiasco, she was SOBBING in her Patreon video about how mean everyone was being about her essentially lying. And she still does another one...wow.
You can tell she really does not like being at this retreat
Getting away from the kids for her means eating out several times a day and shopping, not having to socialize with people she doesn't know well. She said she had to leave all these extensive notes for the grandparents---why?
Nate: Give him the iPad and ignore him
Mark: Give him M&Ms, fries, Goldfish, applesauce, and try to ignore him screaming constantly
Lucy: Give the princess anything she wants. She can also parent Nate and Mark if you need a break.
That should about cover it. It does sound like Mark actually got to go to the park instead of the store, so I'm sure that was a great experience for him. Maybe he'll get to go again when they go to their family for Thanksgiving.
I feel so sorry for mark and Nate your comment reminded me of a funny video I saw after lockdown. Basically this young child was taken to the park and he was in awe because it had been so long since he had been and he had clearly forgotten that parks existed 😂😂
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.ETA: I just read that comment. OMG, that is pure gold and confirms everything that we have discussed here. I wonder why it hasn’t been deleted. Did Paula come to Jen’s defense?
Oh, it was deleted almost immediately. The Bakery is simply faster 💁♀️
It was on her Spring 2020 Q&A: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zzmQidSVqto
I think the Disney vlog mentioned was the one from April 2019, the last video featuring Don. They went with the Rosses but barely saw them. IIRC the rest of the fam followed it up with a Disney cruise but Jen used the kids as an excuse to not join.
www.yewtu.be/watch?v=S75r0vVN1ig
@46:30 "we had the best time this trip with Donny…it’s just been incredible, the MOST amazing time, I think my favorite vacation ever…and it’ just beginning. It’s just the beginning."
She didn't see a damn thing coming
ETA it's interesting, in hindsight, how she treated the Rosses pre- and post-divorce. Charlotte was born and they were disposable - like not even staying with them in the Hamptons because of the kids' sleep schedules. WTF! Compared to "they are my family and that is for life", less than 18 months after the best vacation evarrrrr.
Yes that’s the Disney trip if my memory is correct they were late arriving and Jen was clearly pissed off, I feel there were a lot of arguments behind the scenes and Jen made Don look awful on camera. Jen wanted to be queen Bee and she wanted her kids to be the centre of everything, I get that routine is important but jeez who goes on a vacation and doesn’t loosen up a bit especially when you’re with your extended family.
ETA my kids have napped in their stroller on many occasions who cares they’ll sleep if they’re tired.
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Aaryn is so immature why does she act so impulsively and put everything on social media yeh it’s her “job” but homeschooling is something that is a private decision, why didn’t she try it out first and see if she could get on with it and then do an update.
Aaryn will look like an idiot if it doesn’t work out because she’s made such a big deal of it online. -
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I think that there were many straws that broke the camels back one of them being the Disney trip where Jen clearly argued with her in laws because the atmosphere could be felt past the screen, Jen also went into control freak mode and totally dominated the experience with Charlotte and froze Don out despite him footing the entire bill, as well as totally emasculating him in front of his family.
I think the whole vegan bs pushed Don past his limit he was like a champagne bottle and all her selfish and controlling behaviours were the bubbles and he kept them contained until one day the top flew off and everything poured out.
Don was done and there was no going back because even if he only had shared custody the time would be his to do with as he pleased without controlling Jen dominating.
ETA it’s possible that Jen didn’t see it coming because Don may have hidden a lot to keep the peace for the kids plus Jen is so over the top and a professional victim. -
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Jen used to make a huge fuss and spend soooo much money on Christmas especially for her nieces and making stockings for all the family and shipping them to Utah.
I thought at the time that it was over the top she was clearly trying to buy people and that’s not possible because people either like you or they don’t. I never trust someone that is too nice. We buy family a nice tgift the end we are not stingy at all but we put a lot of thought into them. I don’t know who Jen was trying to impress.
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I finally understand the Loftus (sorry if I butchered that) they stuck Jen up there to have some peace and quiet 🤨 -
.It's strange to me that she seems to have full knowledge of what he struggles with but still refuses to do absolutely anything about it. Like he drew all of those really cool characters and she cut all of them out. She talks about how he struggles with cutting, how he has special scissors at school, etc., but does she work with him at home? No, of course not! That would be too much for her to actually taken a few minutes to reinforce what the school is doing.
I also don't know why she thinks it's so cute that her kids don't know how to behave in church. It's not cute that they can't get through a church service without plying them with snacks and Kindles. She's literally teaching Mark and Nate to cope with boredom by eating, which is something she herself has a HUGE issue with. She's sitting there laughing uncontrollably about her kids obnoxious behavior, and I bet no one else at church is.
That’s one thing you learn early on that nobody wants to look at and chat about your children unless they are family/close friends
Nobody finds it funny Jess it’s lazy parenting it’s a shame that this is the style of parenting that you chose especially for Nate. -
.Yeah, I just rewatched this gem. Jen has to contradict everything out of CC's mouth. The kid isn't yet three, but Jen can not allow any fluidity of thought. Charlotte must respond logically and with a precise sense of time. Ain't no go with the flow when you're Jenbo. Don actually was a much more intuitive parent. But. I have noticed in a bunch of the final year vlogs he clings to Charlotte almost as talisman against Jen.
Jennifer Boyles is the person who I hate watching eat the most in the world. And I have kids with zero manners who chew loudly.
I never realised how loud Jen was she really wants to be the centre of attention, I’m quite chill that would get old real quick for me. -
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Well that novelty wore off faster than I expected it to. -
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Jess says that Nate doesn’t care about presents or going out blah blah, that’s the thing if you’ve never been treated well and your emotional needs have been ignored over and over and even when you ask for something it’s always no then of course you’re not going to expect anything good from life and eventually you will accept the fact that others are more important.
We always treat our sons with autism the same way as our neurotypical daughter without exception it doesn’t matter if they appreciate it ( they do) we as parents are an example and we teach our children how to treat others and as Christian parents the Hollys’ are teaching their daughter how to treat people that are neurodivergent as lesser than herself and with contempt, that it’s fine to lord it over them, push them, take their possessions and that such behaviour is acceptable for her.
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To tell the truth I can't stand watching her anymore but want to stay with you all...so I suffer through it.
I really think she has some type of mental problem with her health...seems she has for a long time.
She doesn't want to go to the doctor because I think that's what he will say.
She has said many times how no one can figure out what is wrong with her...one problem after another.
The saddest part is she is passing all this onto to her kids. I wonder if the grandparents see this mess ??? Is everyone in denial ???
I think Jess has binge eating disorder because she’s proven that she can go for long periods without food but then she eats huge portions.
The cereal and buffalo dip are another good example of her bingeing because the kids could never eat the excessive amount that she hoards.
I saw Jess make her buffalo dip it looked extremely rich and I know it would last me a few days in fact I would probably freeze half.
I feel that’s why OMAD was a good choice for her because with binge eating disorder it can be like a floodgate opening when a person starts eating or has an emotional upset of some kind.
OMAD meant that Jess couldn’t start eating so she wasn’t awakening her taste buds although I expect she fantasised about all the goodness she would have later like a carrot to keep going but once she closed her fast it was binge heaven only on a smaller scale. -
CoffeeFromABeerStein10YrOldComputerPastItsPrimeAlwaysBibleStudyTimeLikeHilary Pt 8 - Old World Home/my so-called home.I’m just surprised she bought something not on Facebook Marketplace.
It’s not normal kids need a safe space to play Hillary should have made the basement into a large playroom with play equipped it’s huge they could have all kinds of fun down there. -
.Wtf, she’s teaching her almost 6-year old toddler curriculum.
My kid knew all her colors by the time she was 18 months old!! And I don’t think that’s bragging at all, pretty standard if you ask me.
I'm not watching her video... is she teaching a 5 year old colors and how to count to 15?? Honestly, if that's the case, she shouldn't be in kindergarten yet.
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Jess has an ulterior motive for a lot of things like the deals so she can get out alone and the refusal to address her health issues and sort them once and for all, that would mean fewer days in bed and more days parenting solo because she wouldn’t have an excuse to call David to leave work and take over while she pampers herself and eats. -
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I can’t understand why she doesn’t do something productive with her life she has copious amounts of time and money to go back to college if there is something she would like to do. Walking trails is all well and good for a vacation or a weekend hobby but I would be so bored with that if it was all I had in life.
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