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Generationally speaking, Jen is actually kind of interesting.
Jen’s parents are early Baby Boomers & are about the same age as my parents.
Early Baby Boomer parents are/were totally different than today’s parents & even later Baby Boomers.
The issue w/ Jen is most early Baby Boomer parents are parents to Gen-X-ers - the slacker, whatever, “reality bites,” independent, forgotten generation.
However, Jen’s parents, as early Baby Boomers, had their son later in life & then had Jen even later in life, so she’s a Millennial.
Most other people Jen’s age either have later Baby Boomers for parents (like Don & Tensleigh) or even early Gen-X-ers. I think one of the reasons Jen attached herself to Don’s family so much was due to the different generation of Don’s parents - their later Baby Boomer generation “fit” Jen’s Millenial personality better.
The way Jen was parented is not the way most of her peers were probably parented - and, instead of going through life & coping w/ leftover parental issues as a Gen-X-er, she’s a Millennial. And, while not every Millennial stereotype is true, there is a reason stereotypes exist, & Jen fits most every Millennial stereotype there is. And Millennials just see things differently than Gen-X-ers… as a people, most generations tend to see & relate to things differently… generically speaking, of course. There are also geographic & socio-economic & just plain individual differences too.
And, so, like thousands of other people, she’s decided it’s fashionable to blame her parents (even subconsciously which still comes out in little comments here & there) for how she is.
And, while she’s claimed that she parents her own children differently w/ things like daily affirmations & loving them for who they are & blah, blah, blah, the reality is she’s still very heavily influenced by her parents & how her parents raised her.
She’s very double-minded - in one breath, she states that she’s raising her kids differently & more positively while in another breath, she’s explaining how her parents didn’t spend much time w/ her & she turned out fine & how kids don’t need all kinds of extra attention.
And, beyond that, she’s just so awkward w/ every-day life & has isolated herself so much, she doesn’t see or understand or relate to how other people her age parent & do life.
I’m a Gen-X-er & parent/parented both differently from my early Baby Boomer parents AND from the Millennial generation. But, as a group, we Gen-X-ers all have a lot of similar characteristics & raising/have raised our children similarly because we have been engaged in our communities & societies & have been influenced by people in our different peer groups.
Jen is a Millennial, but she has no peer groups. She’s completely isolated herself from everyone her age - now that she’s no longer w/ Don, she has nobody in her circle that’s her age w/ whom to do life. The influencers she likes to glom onto are in her age range, but in completely different seasons of life than Jen. Jen makes no connections w/ her parents of her kids’ friends. She has no actual friends of her own to watch & be influenced by in order for her to really understand how to relate to other people her age in any real, tangible ways… especially when it comes to parenting.
So, while she’s all about daily personal affirmations to CC & Donny since, as she claimed she never got that kind of thing growing up, she still doesn’t see how she’s parenting CC & Donny completely different than most other people her age are parenting their kids… which DOES impact a kid’s life.
Like, for instance, CC needed a new dress for her program at school. Even if kids have plenty of clothes that still fit, a new outfit for the 1st day of school is still important. Most little girls CC’s age aren’t really all that excited about getting a new stuffed animal. Children like to see their parents involved at their schools. Fitting in & being like the other kids is a high social need of kids, & kids notice who has the weird parents - or the parents who don’t fit in like the other parents.
Millennial moms are very focused & centered in on their children’s daily lives & are Pinterest-y - just watch any reel of a mom putting together her kids’ lunches in the cute Bento boxes or the birthday parties or the back-to-school first day of school rituals.
CC seems to have that kind of mother-figure in Tensleigh - the birthday party she apparently gave for CC is an example. But CC KNOWS - Tensleigh is her stepmother, & Jen is her mother. CC sees the difference, & that kind of thing has to have an effect on her child psyche.
I don’t know where I’m going w/ all this, except Jen really is a fascinating psychology study, & the generation of her parents as it relates to Jen’s generation & how it affects Jen as a parent is just one aspect.
Edited by SmoothiesLikeLily - 9/14/2023, 11:50 PM -
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I never thought I’d hear the words “provisions” & “Target” in the same sentence as in “I’m going to get provisions at Target.”
I’m interested in the live to see if she addresses her latest vague-booking on her Instastories - “I missing running” & “I miss my dog.” -
.I don’t think she indulged him at all…her gifts to him were always lame. He liked to give and she liked to take.
Two of the 5 Love Langauges are called "Acts of Kindness" and "Recieving Gifts"...Jen did a lot of Acts of Kindness, while Don was all about the "Gift Giving."
Not sure about it of course, but I suspect Jen stopped her acts and Don stopped gifts..one of them stopped their own due to the other.
Not sure but I did notice Jen stopped hosting parties after the kids were born, not sure if due to Dons back he stopped buying gifts...idk.
I would've loved to see how she holiday planned with two littles, like hosting kid birthday parties. She wouldn't have to show the two kids in these videos either.
Very sad.
I’m trying to think of a time when Jen ever did any Acts of Kindness for Don, & I’m coming up blank.
Packing his suitcase for a trip? But that was always prefaced with her complaining that she did it because poor dumb Don couldn’t pack as well as she did & she never could do it w/o mentioning how much larger his clothes & shoes were than hers.
Attending family get togethers w/ him? But it wasn’t really out of kindness to Don… Jen liked feeling like she was an honorary Melissa, & let’s not talk about the times she made things incredibly awkward for the family (Mother’s Day, the Hamptons…)
Did she kindly take care of him when he had his back surgeries? No.
One of Don’s love languages is obviously food. Did she cook for him? No.
Did she try in any way to make his transition back to an office environment easier? No.
Did she have sex w/ him? Yes… but only on her terms.
Theirs was a very contractual relationship, & nothing Jen did for Don was ever out of any kindness on her part. -
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I guess if I were so terrified of seeing a bear in its natural habitat, I wouldn’t be hiking in the woods in bear country.
As a woman, the bear in the woods wouldn’t scare me as much as hiking alone & sleeping alone in my car would scare me. -
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Personally, I love that Tensleigh, w/o even really trying, can make better social media content than Jen who’s been doing it as her “job” for over a decade.
Tensleigh’s content is both more interesting & creative AND better quality when it comes to the actual filming. -
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In her latest Insta-stories, why does her voice sound so shaky & like she’s either just quit crying or is on the verge of tears?
And, at the same time, she sounds shaky, she also sounds smug & defensive. -
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For her next transformation, I wish she’d start fangirling some kind of home interior decorator, but I’ve been wishing that for eons.
This latest travel video is just… sad.
She’s speaking so quietly, one can barely even hear what she’s saying. And what you CAN hear is so disjointed & rambling it’s hard to follow.
And she was so condescending regarding the rodeo & the whole “getting closer because you can hear the twang” bit. She is EXACTLY the kind of tourist that locals hate.
Her travel vlogs would be SO MUCH more enjoyable to watch & she herself would enjoy her travel more if she (1) took a little time to actually learn a little bit about the place & its interesting features & (2) took a little time to actually BE in the place instead of just rushing from one thing to the next.
Also, LOVE how just a few short years ago, she’s crying hysterically about cows &, fastforward to present, here we have her in one video not only scarfing down a big old cheeseburger but also enjoying a rodeo.
Jen is SUCH a woman of principle, y’all.
(Disclaimer: I’m not saying there’s anything wrong w/ cheeseburgers or rodeos… it’s just hilarious to me how fast Jen flips & flops & things that were of UTMOST importance to her suddenly aren’t, but it’s fine… she’ll just rewrite & revise her history to somehow make it all make sense in her feeble little mind.) -
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Does anyone else remember in maybe a “live chat” video where Jen said something about no longer being interested in international travel at this particular time in her life? I think, if I’m remembering correctly, the excuse she gave was the kids - as in she decided she couldn’t be that far away from them.
Which is hilarious, now, in hindsight.
Forget her own trip to Italy… Jen obviously had just found out about Ibiza & wanted to set the record straight - SHE is the better & more caring parent, of course, & would never ever travel that far away from CC & Donny.
How dare Don think about jetting off to some foreign locale w/ the new Mrs. Ross w/o a thought for the children! Jen, being the wonderful, loving, sensitive, & caring mother that she is would NEVER be that far away from the children.
What fires Jen has to walk through as a single mother & the only adult present.
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CC leaving behind the Cinderella doll & purse behind, whether by her own choice or not, there’s just something so… I don’t know… icky about the whole thing & just reeks of Jen’s feelings of privileged elitism.
In her recap of the trip, Jen could have completely left out any references to everything they left behind… the doll, the purse, the bottle of wine, the picture….
But, in her total lack of self-awareness, she had no clue how putting all of it in the recap would make her look & even make CC look - because, like someone else pointed out, there’s a part of it, if Jen’s version is really true, that makes CC end up looking up a tad spoiled & bratty. Who knows, though? Maybe Jen wanted CC to come across that way.
A Disney cruise is pricey. The tickets for the Tea Party were both hard-to-get & pricey.
There are a lot of children who never go on a cruise, much less a Disney cruise. And, then, of the children on a Disney cruise, there’s an even lesser percent who get to experience the extra things like the Tea Party.
And, here’s Jen… so privileged that she doesn’t have to consider the money for anything, so nothing has any kind of value… everything is disposable, anything can be easily left behind…
And, for someone who claims to be so empathetic & caring, she has NO CLUE how it makes her look to just toss a pricey princess doll that most little girls would absolutely love to receive at a fancy Tea Party or leave behind a picture of her kids that most mothers would be carefully packing away in their suitcases as a treasured keepsake of a once-in-a-lifetime trip.
Jen has always been smug & conceited & has always loved showing off her money, but, in my opinion, this kind of thing takes it to a whole other level of just tone-deaf elitism.
I mean, I guess Jen wants everyone to know she’s wealthy & can easily throw things away w/o a care in the world because she can just buy more.
But it’s just so distasteful & gross. -
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So, to clarify, after re-reading the blog post about the Cruise Tea Party -
It looks like the traditional “boy” gift set during the tea is the Duffy bear, a shield, & a sword while the traditional “girl” gift set is the Cinderella doll, a purse (or jewelry box) & a charm bracelet. Also included in the Tea Party are autograph books for each child & a full-color 8x10 photo to commemorate the experience.
So, at first, I was thinking the 2 shields on the desk counter behind Jen in her vlog were both CC’s & Donny’s - meaning they both, at some point in the trip, got shields.
However, it looks like BOTH of those shields are Donny’s - he received one sword & shield set to go w/ his Knight costume at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique & another set at the Tea Party.
And there happened to be room for BOTH of his shields & swords to make it home - in addition to his 2 stuffed toys he chose on the cruise ship & the stuffed sled dog & bag of jewels he got in their last port city.
Meanwhile, while I’m assuming there was room for CC’s Elsa costume & accessories she chose at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique & for the stuffed dog & bag of jewels she got from the port city, there was NOT room for both her Stitch stuffed animal & notebook AND the Cinderella Doll & purse she received at the Tea Party.
So, while Donny managed it make it home w/ 2 swords & 2 shields, w/ the exception of the charm bracelet, CC had to leave behind the gifts she received at the Tea Party.
Of course, if we believe Jen, CC CHOSE to leave behind the doll & purse. -
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And to just remind all of Jen’s “With Wonder Community” members who are lurking here -
Only a few months ago, Jen paid for a Disney photographer to do a special photo session of her w/ all her medals at Disney Studios because she wanted to memorialize such an important part of her life w/ super-special photos.
Fastfoward to last week, & Jen opted to leave behind a full-color professional photo of her 2 children because it just wasn’t that important to her.
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.According to the blog post, that @Jenny’sBespokePoopShovel shared above, the Cruise Tea Party package includes an 8 x 10 color photo of your child/ren w/ the princesses at the tea which comes in a black leather folio folder & is delivered to your stateroom later.
So, the picture of CC & Donny was included in the price of the Tea Party, was small enough to fit in the box w/ the Mickey Cruise Print, & was deliberately left behind by Jen.
EDITED TO ADD - And, like, for real!? How much Disney stuff does Jen purchase for herself for & during EACH Disney trip? How many sets of ears does she have? How many medals? How many t-shirts? How many jackets? How many Disney-specific bags & pouches?
Has Jen EVER in the history of EVER left anything of hers behind?
As a reminder, to Jen, back in your dreadful caged life, you paid to have the Disney Christmas tree & its ornaments shipped home.
I'm going to be lazy like Jin and ask a question that I could easily look up for myself: how much did the expensive tea party cost? I can't make myself watch the video after reading what are undoubtedly themost interestingleast boring parts.
According to the blog post shared, the cost was $210/per child & $69/for each accompanying adult. -
.As far as I am aware DCL still physically prints all the photos you get taken on the cruise, they get put in a binder/folder (folio) for your room. You can browse them at your convenience and select which ones to buy. I am guessing Jen the poor communicator meant she CHOSE NOT TO BUY her prints in the folio vs "leaving them behind". I did not watch the video because I cant stand watching her anymore so unless she specifically said she purchased the portraits or her folio of portraits was included, most likely she just meant she chose not to purchase them.
Stil ridiculous she'd rather have a stock photo of Mickey than images of memories with the circumstances, but thats Jinbo for ya.
According to the blog post, that @Jenny’sBespokePoopShovel shared above, the Cruise Tea Party package includes an 8 x 10 color photo of your child/ren w/ the princesses at the tea which comes in a black leather folio folder & is delivered to your stateroom later.
So, the picture of CC & Donny was included in the price of the Tea Party, was small enough to fit in the box w/ the Mickey Cruise Print, & was deliberately left behind by Jen.
EDITED TO ADD - And, like, for real!? How much Disney stuff does Jen purchase for herself for & during EACH Disney trip? How many sets of ears does she have? How many medals? How many t-shirts? How many jackets? How many Disney-specific bags & pouches?
Has Jen EVER in the history of EVER left anything of hers behind?
As a reminder, to Jen, back in your dreadful caged life, you paid to have the Disney Christmas tree & its ornaments shipped home.
Edited by SmoothiesLikeLily - 9/2/2023, 12:41 AM -
.And here’s another thing about the Cinderella Doll & the Bear given to the children participants at the Tea Party -
Disney prides itself on being inclusive. They did NOT automatically give CC the Cinderella doll because she’s a girl & give the bear to Donny because he’s a boy.
The servers would have presented the gifts in such a way that the children could choose which set of items they wanted - if a little boy wanted Cinderella & a purse, he could have had Cinderella & a purse while a little girl could have had the bear & a sword if that’s what she preferred.
Now, I don’t know if maybe the gift sets would be something parents would have to pre-select for their children when booking the event or not - but I’m almost 100% quite positive that Disney wasn’t just giving the boys the bears & swords & giving the girls the dolls & purses.
Even allllll the way back years ago, when my children were little, & we were eating breakfast at Cinderella’s Royal Table in the Magic Kingdom at Disney World, my kids were asked if they wanted either the plastic sword or the plastic wand that came as part of the Cinderella’s Royal Table meal packages - even back then, no one was just assuming girls wanted the wands & boys wanted the swords.
So, at some point, the Cinderella doll & purse were chosen either for CC or by CC - and the choosing wasn’t automatically done by Disney… either Jen or CC made the choice.
And, so, IF CC did choose the doll & purse over the bear & sword, it’s a bit funny (& suspect) how later she, on her own, decided she didn’t like the doll or the purse & was perfectly fine leaving both behind.
Is this the Cinderella doll they handed out to the kids? Maybe it's because I'm a child of the 80's, but that doesn't look terribly creepy to me.
ETA: Here's the blog I found that picture on.
https://findingdebra.com/disney-cruise-roy...ourt-royal-tea/
(IMG:https://upload.forumfree.net/i/fc12006908/...t-Royal-Tea.jpg)
Yes!! That’s probably it!
I’m not sure if Disney World still does the Enchanted Rose Tea Party at the Grand Floridian or not, but that’s the kind of doll children would receive at the Enchanted Rose Tea Party - and one of the reasons the Tea Party was so pricey - because the children were receiving real dolls w/ higher levels of quality.
And I think the cruise Tea Party is probably the equivalent of the Enchanted Rose Tea Party that used to be at the Grand Floridian (& maybe still is?).
The doll is Disney’s version of the American Girl Doll & is called “My Disney Girl,” if I’m remembering correctly.
We never attended the Enchanted Rose Tea Party at the Grand Floridian, but, several years ago, we purchased the My Disney Girl doll for our daughter at the Once Upon a Toy Store in what is now Disney Springs. The doll came dressed in jean shorts & a cute little pink Minnie Mouse top, but you could purchase princess outfits separately. Back then, it was over $100, so the pricing was in line w/ American Girl dolls. (Back at home, our daughter included the My Disney Girl w/ her other American Girl dolls.)
The “My Disney Girl” doll that children received at the Enchanted Rose Tea Party came in a pink princess outfit, I think.
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.I can not think of any scenario where I would leave photos of my children behind! WTF?
Right?!
There’s NO WAY those pictures & their folio case were any bigger than the box that contained that Mickey cruise print that she DID bring home.
Could she not have just slid the folio case into the box w/ the print?
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