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.I have a bigger house than hers, it's not excessive IMO. A bedroom for each member and a guest room for Don or whoever when they visit.
A playroom, living / family room and basement.
For how rich they are, it's midsize home. I don't see them moving the kids anytime soon.
I've said that too. When I first saw their house I was very underwhelmed. I mean the first floor consists mainly of living room, dining room, kitchen and family room. That's about as common as houses come. And the size of their downstairs rec room is unimpressive as well. It was well over valued at $1.6 million dollars when they bought it and not even worth the $1.1-$1.2 million that it is valued at now.
Given the near half a million dollar loss they're going to take when they go to sell it, I wouldn't be surprised if they hold on to it for a while.
Personally I think Jen will get the house in the settlement and she will stay there with the kids for the near future. I think Don will pay the taxes on it for a while. At least until he meets another woman, at which time, he will grow tired of shelling out extra money on Jen. And then she'll have to sell. But right now, I think the location of the house near his family suits all parties and she'll stay put.
And also throwing it out there, I don't think the in-laws are going to be inviting Jen to Utah after the divorce. Those type of rich people close ranks around family (actually most people do). And Jen won't be family anymore. I can't see them at all allowing her to continue hanging out with them in Utah. Quite honestly that would be absurd for the ex-wife to be there. Most likely Don will be allowed to take the kids out there for a couple of weeks every December, likely with alternating Christmases with Jen. The kids will probably fly out there with Grandma and Grandpa. I can't see him wanting to travel with two young children on his own.
as far as Jen's things out in Utah. She'll clear out her personal items, clothes and such. Boxing them up and shipping them back home. The furniture in the loftice will stay. It's from Amazon, it's not worth bothering with. -
.FlowerFace im sorry to read that and really hope you will find a way to be more happy in the future!
I too have moments when I’m not happy, but I find that reading and snarking here helps me a lot in these moments.
Thank you for your kind words. I mainly posted all of that to express that though some of us in life may have everything we want materially, we may not be happy people. And sometimes we find ourselves stuck in situations that are not ideal and it is easier said than done to get out of, especially after years and years of dependency. But unlike Jen, I am not about to whine "poor privileged me". I could change my life anytime I want. Say goodbye to my ex's money and live my own life. I choose not to and so the consequences are my own to deal with. Jen has her own reasons for staying. Maybe she actually loves the lug, in her own way.
I have not followed Jen enough to know whether or not she is deserving of all the snark. As I said, I do not find her that interesting to delve too deeply into her life. But I do enjoy reading the comments on here about her. You guys have turned her otherwise dull existence into a soap opera worthy read. It's fun. -
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I found Jen a few years ago. I, too, am a neurotic organizer and she became a kindred spirit. Like her, I am obsessed with organizing. I have kits in my purse for everything, and years ago had to get rid of all my small purses because I needed something larger to contain them all. What she calls her Walking Pharmacy I have always called my Medi-kit. I have a bathroom kit (anything and everything to see me through the worst bathroom, including latex gloves). An electronics kit. And my catch-all kit. I also have my portable bathroom kit, which consists of a TravelJohn urinal in case I'm ever faced with needing to go to the bathroom where there wasn't one.
My obsessive need for backups borders on a psychological disorder. I have crates and crates full of backups to my backup of pretty much everything. It's at the point where if I give someone something and they like it, they immediately say "I don't need another one". Because they know what's about to happen.
I too live a life of leisure, but not in a healthy way. While my every material need is met, my life is empty and often lonely. About 17 years ago my ex did something very cruel to me and he has been paying for it (literally) ever since. He's wealthy and has provided a very comfortable life for me. Although we were never married, every month I get a sizable check deposited into my account as if it was alimony. Like Don, he denies me nothing. I won't go into the psychological reasons why I allow myself too taken care of for the past 17 years when I should be rid of my ex and supporting myself. I was destined to be an independent go-getting woman. I have a college degree, a master's degree, and a law degree. But I eventually threw in the towel and gave up on myself. What my ex did wasn't something so bad that I shouldn't have been able to shake it off and move on to a happy life. But it was just the last straw after a string of life's disappointments.
Once my ex stops paying, my sizeable inheritance will see me through the rest of my life. My dear father has seen to it that I'm taking care of. However, regardless of my material comfort, I don't wish my lonely life on anyone. Like Jen, I haven't any friends. Once I stopped working, I withdrew from my social scene because all of my peers were moving in a different direction. Off with their glorious law firm jobs while I sat at home. It was humiliating for me and was easier to stop being friends with people than to face their disapproving pity. Thankfully for me, I've always been a very lone wolf type person so being alone hasn't been crushing. Outside of shopping, and some trips, my only outlet is my aerobics class. But unlike Jen, I do enjoy talking to the women there.
So needless to say, when I started watching Jen it was like I was looking in a mirror. Though I didn't watch any of her personal videos; I was only interested in her organizational videos. Didn't really care about who she was as a person. She didn't seem very interesting to me beyond her organizational skills. However, since finding this board, I have watched some of her personal videos. I must say, my initial assessment was correct. She isn't a very interesting person. Quite droll, in fact. She rambles on about nothing. Outside of her organizing, I find her to be quite empty of a person. Vapid. Useless. She doesn't seem to elevate anyone around her. She simply exists. But who am I to judge her? One could say I'm equally as useless. Although I do strive to elevate people around me. -
.I am new to this Jen drama. But I'm curious, did Jen changing the living room into Romper Room for the kids coincide with the demise of their marriage. After watching that 2014 Christmas video someone recently reposted, with all the entertaining they used to do in their home, changing the living room into a kid's playroom seems awful like a sign that the marriage is over and she's resigned herself that it's just going to be her and the kids in the house now.
I've never seen the Ross's family home, but is that Romper Room really up to the Ross standard of living? I mean does Family Money expect to walk through the front door of their son's house and see a Romper Room where there should be a gorgeous living room? I'm assuming Romper Room is a sign that there won't be anymore family entertaining.
Another question, why do you guys think she didn't turn the rec room downstairs into the playroom instead of her living room? I've never seen their rec room so I have no idea what they've done with it. But surely it's more appropriate for a playroom than their living room. It's just the strangest thing I've ever seen: people of their economic status living in a house like that, who used to frequently entertain, choosing not to have a formal living room. Especially when there's only two areas to entertain in on that floor. The living room and family room.
All of this is something I wondered aswell. Did she never plan to entertain ever again? I know she said in the holiday housetour that they keep bigger play items like a trampoline in the basement.
A trampoline downstairs?! Wait a minute, so the downstairs rec room is a playroom too? So basically they turned their whole house into Romper Room?
My goodness they must be the most immature people ever. I thought her baby voice was an act but I'm beginning to think it's a natural trait. And him liking to be mothered is interesting too. It's like they're two kids playing house. And don't have a clue how to go about doing it.
Her decorating is also evidence she doesn't have any close girlfriends. At least no one with any taste to help influence her. If my friend told me she plans on changing her living room into a playground I would have intervened. -
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I am new to this Jen drama. But I'm curious, did Jen changing the living room into Romper Room for the kids coincide with the demise of their marriage. After watching that 2014 Christmas video someone recently reposted, with all the entertaining they used to do in their home, changing the living room into a kid's playroom seems awful like a sign that the marriage is over and she's resigned herself that it's just going to be her and the kids in the house now.
I've never seen the Ross's family home, but is that Romper Room really up to the Ross standard of living? I mean does Family Money expect to walk through the front door of their son's house and see a Romper Room where there should be a gorgeous living room? I'm assuming Romper Room is a sign that there won't be anymore family entertaining.
Another question, why do you guys think she didn't turn the rec room downstairs into the playroom instead of her living room? I've never seen their rec room so I have no idea what they've done with it. But surely it's more appropriate for a playroom than their living room. It's just the strangest thing I've ever seen: people of their economic status living in a house like that, who used to frequently entertain, choosing not to have a formal living room. Especially when there's only two areas to entertain in on that floor. The living room and family room. -
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I feel like the curtain has been pulled back exposing The Wizard of Oz. I found Jen a couple years ago after I came across her Disney resort unpacking and room set up video. I then watched several of her organizational videos. Although I didn't delve much deeper than a few organizational videos, I was very impressed with her and thought she lived a life one could envy.
Fast forward to present day, I stumbled upon this message board when I was looking up a different YouTube vlogger and noticed the section devoted to Jen. I started reading some of the threads which led me to watch some of her personal, non organization videos. Boy, I had no idea Jen was such a hot mess. She is quite an empty vessel, isn't she? Just goes to show you can wrap a present in pretty paper, ribbons and bows but what's inside could be a box of poo.
And by pretty ribbons and bows I'm referring to her life not her personally because she sure is a frumpy gal. What I once viewed as her looking down-to-earth and unpretentious, I now view as lack of effort to rise above the frumpiness. And after watching videos of her home, her house seems quite uninteresting as well. I was expecting more of a sprawling manor. I was left very unimpressed with the downstairs simply consisting of a linear front part and back part. Still a VERY nice house, just not what I was expecting.
I can't quite understand with all she has going for her, why she's so woeful. This goes back to my original assessment of her being an empty vessel. I wonder if she even knows what she needs in life to truly make her happy. She says it's her children but then she can't be bothered to attend that church performance (or whatever it was) instead opting to go to her Fitness class. I watched the one video of the snow day with her children. She took them outside but didn't really play with them. Just stood back and watched them jump around. That's not the makings of someone fulfilled by their children.
And it doesn't seem to be crafts that fulfills her with the looks of her craft room turned to a storage dump. And then with her crying in her hotel room when she was off on that glorious crafts retreat in Oregon. the only time she seemed to be at peace was when she was hiking alone enjoying nature.
I'd still take her life any day over mine; I just wonder what's missing in it for her. Maybe she is clinically depressed and needs to be on some medication. -
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Ah, I see, no mortgage. I knew they came from money I just didn't know how much. Paying cash for a $1.6 million dollar house. Wow! With that kind of money at her disposal, I'm surprised she doesn't have a nanny. Then she can have all the time in the world to for her craft projects in her glorious crafts room.
And if they aren't going to flinch at a $500,000 loss then why in the world is she bothering selling old bags online for $50? And stressing over the hassle, no less. Man, has she got issues.
Some people don't know how to be anything other than miserable. And her misery seems self-created for the most part. She lives a life most could only dream for.
Perhaps her problem is Medical. She ought to get her thyroid checked if she hasn't already, especially with her hair loss. I have a thyroid disorder that went undiagnosed for years. Your thyroid effects so many mental and physical areas. I went from being a social butterfly, traveling with my friends, out of law school about to live my best life, to slowly becoming a depressive hermit, not ever wanting to leave the house. Deep depression set in. I gained weight. My hair was coming out by the bushels. Suicidal thoughts. Lost all sexual desires. I stopped working, lost all of my friends because I just couldn't be bothered with them. My place was always a wreck just like Jen's office. I had no idea what was going on. Finally I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and got on medication. But even then it took a couple of years to get the levels adjusted correctly and find the right medicine combination for me. But let me tell you, once I hit the sweet spot with my medicine and I got my thyroid hormone levels functioning normally, it was like the fog had lifted and the Sun finally came back out. It was a complete 180 and I was back to my old self again. It was like I'd been sleepwalking all of those years and finally woke up.
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Hi guys, my first post. I've been lurking reading up on this saga. I've read a few back threads but then skipped to this most recent one to catch up. So perhaps this has been discussed, but maybe the reason why Jen has been so sullen is because they're going to get hosed if they have to sell their house in divorce.
Looks like they bought it in 2007 during the housing bubble when Real Estate was well overvalued. They paid $1.66 million and now it looks like it's only worth about $1.19 million. Based on the comprables in their neighborhood, that lower figure sounds about right.
I can't imagine having a mortgage for $1.66 million but only being able to get $1.19 million for it and then having to cough up the difference. That's almost a $500,000 loss. No wonder she's selling bags online now. Every little bit helps.
Jen said she fell in love with the fireplace. Well, that was one very expensive fireplace that they were willing to pay almost $500,000 more than they should have for the house. I hope they at least get to roast some marshmallows in the thing.
Taking such a huge financial hit might not be practical. They both might have to stay in the house with Don living in the basement, only popping up to cook the kids some meat.
for all we know that's where he's been and why we haven't seen him.
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