I'm projecting my issues because I can't possibly have a rational thought that disagrees with the majority view? I thought we snarked on Jen and her sphere here? Why am I being out on a personal level?

Don used Jen just like Jen used him. Just because Jen used him more doesn't make him a whole lot better in that regard.

I don't feel sympathetic toward Jen at all for the events that led to where she is now. She is a horrible mother and I feel for her kids. They are the only blameless parties.

Don is a major asshole. I think in some ways he is worse than Jen. It's not pro-Jen to think that.

Don left Jen not long after having two kids. He cut and run after getting what he wanted.

Don is not simply a blameless victim who never made self-serving choices in his marriage with Jen. It was self-serving of him to have children with Jen after having been married to her for years, knowing full well she is a stunted, selfish woman-child. He shouldn't get any benefit of the doubt.

But I'm going to drop it from now on because the insinuations about me being Jen or being blinded by Don-hate or projecting my issues are completely beyond the scope of Jen gossip, and frankly super disappointing.

Anyone else having flashbacks to when she ran the princess half marathon and Don surprised her with the in room princess package and she wore the tiara and spoke in a baby voice all night?

Yeah I'm sorry. My husband does not have Don's money but he also doesn't say or write shit like this so I'm happy. 😂
I hateddd Don and Suze's pontification

I think the reason why Don comes off looking better than Jen is because we don't see as much of him as we do of her.

If we did, he'd probably have to have his own thread here.

I'm still not giving Don a pass. I really believe there is something manipulative about thinking motherhood will change a person. It's trying to make someone into a person they are not. I think because of their history together Don should have known that Jen was incapable of motherhood, no matter what she told him.

But has this been discussed before? That maybe Don did give Jen an ultimatum at some point in their marriage and Jen relented and had children. If leaving Jen was already an option for Don do you think it made walking away from her easier when the time came? Jen was in such denial and she can be so stupid that she really thought having children would be enough to keep him forever, no matter how badly she treated him? I refused to board the divorce train for so long because I could never see Don leaving her. It just didn't seem possible. I just have to wonder if he wanted to leave her at some point before his meat was banished to the garage.

I don't think that Donny was exactly planned at that point. After Donny was born was when she completely let the crazy fly and it was obvious how much she hated the responsibility of those kids.

These Disney races attract a certain kind of person. I know there are a lot of people who take them seriously. But there are a lot of people like Jen and this guy (a Disney vlogger) who just want to arse around the parks and get a Disney medal. His time was 1 hour and 47 minutes to do a 5K. He did it!

Always have to be repping peloton. Shes desperate for a partnership

I think it is ok that she doesn’t let on when she travels. She was irresponsible in the past in her vlogs with letting people know when her and her family were not in their homes. I don’t have a problem with it many Instagramers do delayed posting for privacy.