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.Ooh that reminds me to get some more Dior cuticle cream.
Wait- which one? I need a new bottle of the Dior Show nail polish so I’ll add it on.
I’m still on the hunt for a cuticle balm in a stick form like The Body Shop used to sell- basically chapstick for your cuticles, but I’ve given up.
A little late but so far, if you are still interested, the best cuticle balms to me are TWO!: Sally Hansen (a little goes a long way, on Amazon), then Burt Bee's lemon cuticle balm (this one I got as an old recommendation from Jen ages ago. Works really well!) -
.Ooh that reminds me to get some more Dior cuticle cream.
Wait- which one? I need a new bottle of the Dior Show nail polish so I’ll add it on.
I’m still on the hunt for a cuticle balm in a stick form like The Body Shop used to sell- basically chapstick for your cuticles, but I’ve given up.
A little late but so far, if you are interested, the best cuticle balms to me, are TWO: Sally Hansen (a little goes a long way), then Burt Bee's lemon cuticle balm (this one I got as an old recommendation from Jen ages ago. Works really well!) -
.Hello everyone! Do you remember when we were talking about Jeff doing a tarot card reading on Jen about 5 days ago? Here it is (I had to sort thru a lot of her shopping hauls to find this. Girl could shop back in the day!):
https://rumble.com/vli5ep-are-we-stodgy-vl...er-11-2013.html
Thank you!
I've been looking for it myself too but could not find it (did not have enough patience though).
The only thing is, can't really understand 100% what PK is saying as he blurs words and talks so fast. But it all gives you a great insight in perspective! -
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Hello Backup!!! So happy you are back!
You meant VIRUTAL so that I could finally say: you rang? -
.Would she be doing the Peloton Disney ride if she was home anyway? I am team overseas, it just seems like she was just over the peloton cycling classes and back onto hiking and running on the app. She dropped being gaga over Cody as fast as she dropped being gaga over BFF CA.
I agree
She stopped gushing
over him a long time ago
When he called her GENE! -
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Thank you! -
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SomewhereinParis
She just sent me 8 pics of Tens
I had seen all but 1
Fat shaming a new mother
I am guessing she’s childless
So she left AGAIN??!!
This as the chick schooling us on the Internet searching/ right?
I went back and looked at her PM to me
HadTens name spelled completely wrong
I must have lost something along the way, sorry but what happened? who is this chick Somewhere in Paris? a troll? -
.Yes, I meant that.
What she has it's because of her life with him, of his ability to save and invest and work. I don't know their financial situation, and I don't want to speculate in any way but as a woman with 2 children, many expenses and no job I would not sleep at night knowing that I depend on someone else's money. Maybe she won't have any problem at all, ever, and I wish her that... Maybe she is settled for life, but life is long. In my country we say: there is more time than life, meaning that you never know what can happen in life, anything can, changes of fate, of fortune, of mind, health...anything. Life can change in a bat of an eye.
Maybe it's just me, and the experiences I had that make me speak like this. But I would feel my seat burning under my butt knowing my ex is going to have a new wife with her own mind, more children, more expenses...He might decide she is perfectly able to provide/ contribute for herself and the children one day...
Or he might die, with a will that splits his money between the Raven Foundation and Tens.
I'm with you - I don't know how Jen is able to be so nonchalant about having no real income of her own. I'd be using this time and money to go back to school, find a job, find an internship or SOMETHING that would lead to a self-sustaining future. Air B&B reviews aren't it.
Exactly THIS!
You said it perfectly.
Of course I don't mean bad to anyone, but my philosophy is: better safe that sorry.
Our time is precious, time is not coming back, why don't use it to build something now that she can? -
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Yes, I meant that.
What she has it's because of her life with him, of his ability to save and invest and work. I don't know their financial situation, and I don't want to speculate in any way but as a woman with 2 children, many expenses and no job I would not sleep at night knowing that I depend on someone else's money. Maybe she won't have any problem at all, ever, and I wish her that... Maybe she is settled for life, but life is long. In my country we say: there is more time than life, meaning that you never know what can happen in life, anything can, changes of fate, of fortune, of mind, health...anything. Life can change in a bat of an eye.
Maybe it's just me, and the experiences I had that make me speak like this. But I would feel my seat burning under my butt knowing my ex is going to have a new wife with her own mind, more children, more expenses...He might decide she is perfectly able to provide/ contribute for herself and the children one day... -
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Idleness is the father of vices...
When I discovered Jen's channel in 2011, I was dating a very wealthy man and I felt very similar to Jen. Back then, my dream was to be a stay at home 'wife'. Which came true to a certain extent. I was very happy playing the perfect housewife and I had no money problem, had plenty of time on my hands. We were travelling a lot, he treated me to Michelin starred restaurants, champagne, expensive gifts without batting an eye. I dare say I was happy at the beginning.
But he was out of the house the majority of the time and I got so bored. I cleaned, went grocery shopping, cooked, exercised, explored the area, went shopping at every whim....But when these activities were over, what was left for me to do? I was so bored. I tried to find a job, find a hobby... I couldn't get out of my head. I started to over organize everything and became more and more unsatisfied. Never felt more 'caged' and at the mercy of fate in my life back then than I ever felt in my entire life. It made me clingy, frustrated and unhappy, I felt ashamed to say to people I was a housewife (= no money of my own). My brain turned into mush. Days were simply too long to fill. I got depressed. It was terribly hard to break the circle and build something on my own.
I discovered that just being a housewife, which I thought was for me, was not good for my mental heath. I can do it, yes, but for limited periods of time(ie on holidays) or while having a part time job or a full time job.
From that experience, I learnt a lot. I swore to myself to never repeat the same mistake again. I understood I need to be independent, and have my own money to be happy and fulfilled. Independence is freedom! It's terrifying to be at somebody's else mercy.
And Jen is still at D's mercy. -
.VirutalHug I think plenty of people in her life have told Jen she needs real therapy, talk and/or meds. I’m sure that she tells them she she knows where best for herself and then goes into a long winded lecture about how throughout history whenever a woman wanted to break from society’s status quote she was treated as a histrionic nut job.
Jen doesn’t understand that just because something is true, doesn’t mean it applies to her. From what she has shown and revealed about her life, she most certainly has real, long-standing mental health issues.
Again, I do think it’s sad how people with these issues are treated but she most certainly does not belong on social media at this point. It’s not good for her well-being.
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Is it true that TLO is involved in porn movies? Other than some of the tags under his posts, where do we come by that info?
You know, I didn't see it at first, to me she seemed a rich stay at home girl but then I gradually came to the conclusion that she IS indeed a person suffering from a mental illness. She is so great at manipulating her shortcomings at her own advantage it's insane! Not here to diagnose of course. From time to time I occasionally watch one of her old party or organizational videos, they are strangely soothing to me, and calming. I NOW see all of it so clearly (well...not just 'now', it's been a while!), all of her mental structure so to say, all of her strategies, her manipulative tactics, her teenage behaviour and enabling husband and relatives.
Well, of course she knows what's best for her! and am sure we all have in your life that exact same person who knows best so after a while you just give up, you stop giving advice and you sit there and watch.
People like Jen rarely heal or grow or understand, unfortunately.
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.Basically the simplified version of the Jen cycle is a constant oversharing and pulling back tug of war, where Jen's desperate need for attention is in a battle with her realisation that offering her life up for public comment will result in public comments.
Could’ve saved her so much money in therapy fees, because this sums it up.
I keep thinking how bizarre it must be to be a Ross (or a Boyles) and know that this level of mental illness (like it or not, that’s what it is, this is not a well adjusted, well functioning human we’re talking about here) is not only displayed on the internet, but there are hundreds of people who are watching her create her own downfall, and create her own problems. It’s very Truman Show-esque and it’s downright bizarre.
I know some vloggers (not big ones) in real life and it’s NBD, it’s just a thing they do. If it ever created this much turmoil and angst and just bananas behavior in their real life, we’d have all stepped in by now. It’s kind of sad when you think about the fact that Jen doesn’t have a group of people who care about her enough (and know her in real life) to say it’s time to get some help and time to start living an actual life and we’re going to help you through it. And not by sending marsha’s pottery or whatever it is and expensive olive oil, but actually BEING THERE for her.
Some of her very old videos are still up and she has monetized them, her very first video is still up. That life is O.V.E.R.
She is still getting money from them probably.
She needs a part time job, some volunteering (maybe a dog shelter?) a few hours dedicated to something else that is not her feelings. She needs something to call her own, she needs to feel useful. Money is going to dry up and I honestly hope so for her, not to wish her bad but as a life lesson to gain some perspective, responsibility and maturity.
She needs to stop for a while, take a year off, take everything down!!! and start new if she really wants to make something out of YT. Use her time off to heal, to downsize, to reconsider her life. Watching her is painful and it's out there for everybody to see it!
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Jen, you now pretend you don't want to share anymore of your children (which is 110% fair) and value your privacy when for the past 11 years you were all over SM bragging your privileged, cushy,paid-by-Don life. Which I envied when I started to watch your channel back in 2011. Yes, I'm a long time viewer converted into Baker. Bakers are savvy, witty, enlighted people and they can see many things which you don't see or pretend not to. You should listen to us, Jen.
The reason why you now value your privacy it's because you have nothing relevant to share anymore, and that's a way to cover the fact that you are living a boring life. Travel videos are your last card because even if you are sitting on a gold mine, you are unable to see the potential of it.
It has been repeated ad nauseam here but your caged life WAS your content. Now that's gone. I would really appreciate far more if you'd be totally honest instead of manipulating reality or scolding people who simply say/ see the truth.
Admitting the reality it's too hard for you because you still don't accept the turn your life has taken. You made a series of wrong decisions, as usual on the emotional fog/ heat of the moment (see RM2). It would have been far more interesting to buy a cosy, smaller house and show the process of styling it with things you liked but your turned into "van life" (2 videos) putting additional anxiety on yourself.
I want to see some real growth Jen, I'm tired of this never ending journey to find yourself. You won't find yourself relaxing for 2 days. It 's not necessary to go to Europe to escape from it all because YOU and your RAGE and eternal FRUSTRATION are the problem. -
.I kind of enjoyed Jeff, sometimes, before the Oliver crap went down.
It was Jeff to be the first one to (sort of) call Jen out on some of her bs during that tarot card reading he did back in 2013 or ???
He has her figured out and it came thru with the things he told her and Don was leaning in close as I recall with comments like oh no she needs to
hear that, when Jeff ventured into Jens "issues" via the cards, that was the first time I saw that Jeff could probably throw Jen (or anyone) under the bus at any given time if needed, and smile at ones face the entire time he is doing it
He will be out of the picture of Utah (at least for a while) and in L.A. helping TLO with his failing career, a player in Jen's life - hmmm probably not so much anymore
I do remember that reading, it was quite hard to hear for me, let alone Jen herself, and personally, I wouldn't have filmed to share. It ways way too personal in a very intimate and deep way.It was back in the MHWL videos, it seemed they went to visit Jeff who at one point if I am remembering the location correctly was not at the twin ross LP that his family owns but a rental in Salt Lake City, they were at an oval table and Jeff pulled out a Tarot deck and played around a bit and then did a full spread reading on Jen, and it was not all sunshine and roses, and he (Jeff) looked over to Don (camera must have been on tripod or Don? filmed it) and seemed to look to Don as if shall I go on and say the things that are not all sunshine and roses, and Don said YES, just do the reading (I am summarizing the convo here)
Basically he said she was a mess (again summarizing) in many areas of her life and had a lot to work on, she was not pleased, clearly fake smiled and why she posted that I will never know, but content I guess (back in the day)
That video was some good stuff. They all ate takeout and then PK went in for the kill with that tarot card reading. He did not mince words. I think Jen looked at him as “the cool kid” and that’s why she sat through it and didn’t freak out. That’s probably the closest anyone’s ever come to calling her out.
Totally agree to this.
That was the closest to a warning for the future and on herself she ever got, but she considered the reading as something of instant gratification soon to be forgotten. -
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These two (PK +TLO) give me bad vibes, they are shiny and pink like a squishy pink plastic swimming inflatable. They look unnatural and deformed, let alone the platinum blonde hair. They should go back to when PK had short hair and TLO long and brown hair.
I see nothing good coming out from this LA big leap. Let's see.I give them 2 year max, once the hype has deflated (or their fillers)
Come on Jen, show us something! a little sneak peek?
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