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.If you are still on the fence as to whether Gene is a narcissist:
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As the daughter of a “eggshell” mother - meaning, growing up, we learned we needed to walk on eggshells around her because we never knew what would set off her mood, &, still, today, our mother-daughter relationship is often fraught w/ bitterness & guilt on my part, this poem made me immediately fidgety & anxious.
I don’t want to go around feeling my mother & I are one & that our cells are forever linked - even if they are.
And I certainly don’t want my own daughter to ever feel that way either.
What I want for my daughter is to be free of me & all of my baggage & anxieties. And, yes, I’m quite sure I’ve messed up as a mother - all mothers do - but I don’t want who I am to define my children.
I’ll absolutely always be on your team, but, child of mine, please be beautifully your own person & be free of me.
And, CC, please learn quickly how to be free of your mother.
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I think, of those choices, taking her current mindset into consideration, her word is one of these - -
Enough
Find
Healing
Persist
Ready
Voice
Wonder
She’s had ENOUGH. She is ENOUGH, &, by God, she will PERSIST in her HEALING journey because she’s READY to use her own VOICE & FIND WONDER. -
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First, I’m sure Jen is absolutely LOVING all the attention & speculation - especially all the “Don is in rehab/jail” & “Don is getting a divorce/Don is having surgery” theories… anything that paints Jen in the “Momma Martyr to the rescue” role.
From the very beginning of her divorce “journey,” Jen has tried to tell the story that makes her the BEST mommy for her babies & the MOST STABLE influence in her babies’ lives & the ONLY ONE that really cares about her babies & the parent who will ALWAYS put her babies first.
But anyone who watches for any length of time w/ any amount of sensibility & logic realizes that Jen is NOT a stable influence in her children’s lives & has NEVER put her children first.
Jen also is a master manipulator. She lies. And she loves to rewrite history. She is not a reliable source for anything - she tells the story she wants to tell & that story can change from one post to the next.
So, all that said, I think the truth behind what’s going on is probably a combination of a lot of things - that came to a head in the last few days.
Also - keep in mind that Jen doesn’t do hard. Jen can’t roll w/ any punches. Even very minor things set her off & throw her into a stressed, anxious tizzy.
So, I’m thinking…
1. Maybe someone or some people in RM3 is/are sick - w/ something like the flu or covid - which threw off the Christmas schedule.
2. Maybe the custody schedule is moving to a 7/7 schedule which has thrown Jen for a loop, especially when it comes to how she travels. Again, Jen is a stick in the mud &, once she has her routine, she can’t deviate from said routine, because, if her routine changes even a little bit, it’s just sooo much for Jen to navigate & there are all kinds of resulting fires through which she must walk. So, because she’s used to a different custody schedule & has made all her travel plans around that custody schedule, a new custody schedule & having to rethink how she’ll travel within the new custody schedule is just currently not computing in Jen’s brain… so, now, it’s this big, huge thing in her life which has been thrust upon her & completely upended her little world. And, like always, it’ll be a journey that she has to navigate & it’ll take her a while to get back on track.
3. Jen is very much an absentee mother, & maybe someone or some people have started making comments or taking note of exactly how absent she really is. She’s there & in town during her custody times, yes, but, if it’s not her custody time, she’s usually out of town (which is fine & perfectly legal) &, even if she’s in town when it’s not her custody time, she’s not doing anything w/ or for her kids during those times. However, her children are now elementary age w/ probably busier school & activity schedules - their scheduled activities are not limited to the days Jen is in town & has custody of them.
* Maybe Tensleigh is tired of having the responsibility of Jen’s kids & their activities - especially if her own kids go to a different school w/ completely different schedules & activities. And she’s complained to Don, & Don has told Jen that she needs to be more of an active participant in their kids’ lives. And, predictably, Jen got very huffy & nostril-flare-y.
* Maybe someone at the school has remarked on Jen’s absences from the various school events. CC’s & Donny’s school seems to be parent & family oriented. Jen’s absence is probably very much noticed. So comments are being made & passed around. And, again, predictably, Jen got very huffy & nostril-flare-y.
* Maybe Jill & all her passive-aggressive comments finally got to her… maybe Jen is trying to prove to her mom that she’s a BETTER mom than Jill ever was, &, while Jill & Gravy traveled all the time & left poor Jen at home, by God, Jen is going to sacrifice & break ALL the generational traumas & will stay home w/ her babies. So there!! (But she’s still very huffy & nostril-flare-y.)
So, any of the above 3 scenarios or a combo of the 3 has made Jen react very defensively - “Fine. I’ll show you. I’ll show everyone. I’ll cancel every single one of my travel plans & I’ll be home this winter w/ my babies.”
And, side note - if Jen feels at all put upon by either Tensleigh or Don, I could see her being all “I’m going to start saying ‘F off’ to people. I can be kind & still tell people to F off. I’m setting boundaries, b!tches, in 2024.”
4. CC & Donny were very little when Jen & Don divorced. And, if the “we’re going to wait until CC asks where Daddy’s sleeping” is any indication, neither Jen NOR Don handled their divorce very well when it came to their kids. Divorce is traumatic for kids. The crazy custody schedule they’ve had of going back & forth is crazy, probably even more so for young kids - they probably never feel settled anywhere. And, when they’re w/ Jen, many times, they’re traveling to Disney or cruising on a ship in the middle of the ocean. When they’re not w/ Jen, they know she’s usually out of town traveling on her own, so she’s not available to them. Yes, she may talk on the phone or FaceTime w/ them, but they know - when they’re w/ Don & Tensleigh, their mother is not physically available to them. And, while Tensleigh may be as sweet as pie, she’s not their real mom & probably parents her own 3 kids differently… and CC & Donny feel that difference & may even feel like outsiders while w/ their Dad & his new family.
So I very much could see either CC or Donny or both of them having some sort of behavioral problems as reactions to the upheaval & uncertainty of their young lives. And maybe some teacher noticed & referred them to a guidance counselor or therapist at the school… who then told Don and/or Jen that their kids maybe needed some kind of ongoing therapy. And, then, while at the therapist’s office, he or she noted that Jen hasn’t really been all that available for her kids & made some kind of suggestion that the kids would benefit from a more stable life in BOTH households.
And, maybe it’s a combo of ALL 4 things, & Jen, who is weary from the way she’s been traveling & worried about her body not cooperating this Disney Run season anyway & needed an excuse to not travel & not run, has taken everything & twisted it to make herself look like THE WORLD’S BEST & MOST LOVING & ATTENTIVE MOMMY.
Of course, Jen will ALWAYS do what’s best for her babies. When NO ONE else thinks of her babies, Jen will ALWAYS have them 1st in her heart & in her mind. When everything else is a topsy-turvy mess, Jen will be the MOST STABLE influence in her babies’ lives. Jen will always SACRIFICE whatever necessary for her babies, so they will be HOME TOGETHER this winter.
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Are all her patreons just idiots?
WHY are y’all asking Jen all these useless, repetitive questions? She said nothing new or interesting in this video.
Waaaaaay back when she 1st polled her audience for travel questions, I actually asked her a few interesting (& completely non- offensive/non-accusatory) questions, & she answered exactly NONE of my questions.
My questions would have given you something new to talk about, Jen; instead, you evidently wanted to go on & on yet again about all the stuff you’ve discussed before. Does it ever make you wonder about your followers - that they apparently can’t remember anything you say from one video to the next so they keep asking you the same stupid questions over & over & over again?
Or…. Are you just ignoring all the questions you actually get & just pretending to answer questions that YOU want to talk about?
#MostLikelyScenario
Anyway, no one travels like you do, Jen. NO ONE. Not other women. Not other families. Not other single mothers. Not even wealthy 1%-ers. Nothing you’re doing is relatable to anyone.
For the 1000th time, everyone pretty much knows how to book an AirBnB. If we’re into exercising, we know how to fit it into our travels. Most sane people know to leave a place if feeling unsafe. The idea of bringing along a book to read when dining alone is not novel. Most people are going to research areas & travel to places they find interesting or intriguing - it’s not a difficult concept.
And you rambling about budgets & talking in circles trying to demonstrate how you budget because, when you stay at a pricey place or eat at a pricey restaurant, you’re only buying stickers was ridiculously laughable.
And that whole long, sanctimonious lecture at the end of the video?
Shut up, Jen.
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Does she even hear herself?
Jen - You CANNOT navigate anything w/ anyone unless there is some genuine sharing going on between both parties -
1. You’re not sharing anything personal or anything about WHY this season is so fraught for you & why it’s so hard to navigate,
and
2. If anyone shares anything personal w/ you in your comment sections, the best you can give back is a dismissive “hugs” or a “thanks for sharing” or a “I’m holding you in my heart.”
Sooo…. Exactly how are you, Jen, navigating this fraught season w/ your WWC members, your so-called dear friends?
And the “peace be with you” nonsense?!
“I respect your peace. But I respect my peace more, so leave me alone.”
That’s the spirit of the season, Jen! Way to really lean into the festive joy of the season!
I’m actually shocked that your house is not FILLED w/ family & friends this holiday season! You just exude such love w/ such a welcoming, happy personality! #sarcasm
Not to get too religious-y, but the above twisting of the meaning of “Peace be w/ you” is the EXACT opposite of its actual meaning.
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And I don’t care if she didn’t rearrange all the ornaments on the tree after CC & Donny were through (& I’m not sure I believe her anyway that she didn’t do at least a little rearranging because, for one thing, there’s no way CC & Donny were able to hang any of the ornaments towards the top of the tree).
EVEN IF she let her kids decorate the whole tree & didn’t do one bit of rearranging, it’s still a boring tree w/ incredibly BORING ornaments for kids - the same kind of boring ornaments on the trees in their rooms, just different colors.
Good God, Jen.
Live a little. Be an involved mother in your kids’ lives.
You know the tree you have hidden in your basement w/ all your special, collected over the years ornaments? Don’t you think your own kids might like a tree that has special ornaments for them?
Show your kids that they are special too - for the love of God, you’re a godd@mn mother, Jen, & it’s not all about you.
Let your kids pick out an ornament each year. Figure out what their interests are & buy special ornaments that fit your kids’ personalities & reflect their current likes & activities. Heck, if your whole life (including your kids’ whole lives) have to revolve around Disney, then buy some fun Disney character ornaments. Your kids like Stich right now? Buy some Stitch ornaments.
You’ve been all over the US in your rumpus vehicle, why not buy an ornament from each place to represent your travels? Get a cute little animal ornament from each place for your kids - have an animal Christmas tree.
It’s not hard.
Even if you spent just a quarter of the amount of time & money on your kids that do on your selfish self, that’d be a vast improvement over the current amount of time & resources you devote to your kids. -
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That hot chocolate bomb was no more special & probably didn’t taste any better than any of the other random, numerous hot chocolate bombs that are everywhere this time of year… Target, Walmart, Walgreens, Starbucks, wherever…
It’s a cheaply made, mass-produced hot chocolate bomb - and it definitely wasn’t made w/ Ritual chocolate.
The ONLY reason Jen Ross even tried it was because it was DISNEY, &, for whatever ridiculous reasons, Disney is her whole life right now. And, then she had to pretend it was “delightful” again, because it’s DISNEY, &, in Jen’s very limited & narrowed view, Disney is PERFECTION in this particular moment of her life journey.
If she had received that same hot chocolate bomb from anywhere else, she would have mumbled something like “how nice” & then tossed it in a bin somewhere never to see it again until she’s cleaning out whatever closet in which she stashed the bin.
And, we’re currently out of town, so I’m reading along but haven’t had a chance to do a lot of commenting.
I will say, though, that, on the 2 days we’ve been shopping while out of town, I’ve purchased some clothes for myself & some really cute shoes. I also got a couple of Christmas ornaments for our tree to remind us of our travels. And my husband & I purchased a nice art print by a local artist, & my husband bought me a lovely piece of jewelry from a local jewelry store.
However, sadly, we have not bought one sticker. Nor does my jewelry have anything to do w/ Mickey Mouse.
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So, when she said whatever she said about the disgusting bathroom - “I’ve actually seen worse bathroom situations” or “I’ve actually been in worse bathroom situations” or whatever she said -
My thought was - “That’s not something about which to brag, Jen!” -
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She literally has NO lamps.
If she turned on the lights, it’d be the bright overhead lights which wouldn’t work right either - like how freaking artificially light-bright the family room is when she shows the back side of the ugly brown chairs w/ the kids sitting cramped up in the chairs to watch a movie while she sits behind them on the sofa.
Her house drives me insane.
The juxtaposition of her Christmas decorating BEFORE kids as to compared to now AFTER kids is criminal.
“Here are my 2 main trees, but, oops, we forgot to actually decorate them!” [giggle]
Okay, so as a self-proclaimed “content creator,” who was planning on a holiday day-cor tour of her home, WHO forgets to decorate their main trees before filming & posting her holiday tour video?
Jen Ross, that’s who!
And people PAY her for this content.
“I’m thinking about moving the large tree to another corner in the empty room since I never open the blinds anyway & like living in the dark like a mole rat. What do y’all think? I mean, I’m gong to do what I do anyway. But, still, spend some time typing out thoughtful comments that I’ll ignore.” [giggle]
“Here are my galvanized houses. Without lights. Because I haven’t changed the batteries yet. Also, the wreath is supposed to twinkle. But, guess what? I haven’t changed the battery on it either! [giggle]
“Here’s the kitchen. It’s so dark in here you can’t actually see anything. But, really, there’s not much in here anyway. I’ll put the kids’ advent calendars out. Whenever. Maybe I’ll get around to getting some holiday mugs out.” [giggle]
“Oops. Even though I knew I was filming a holiday day-cor video, I still haven’t updated my letterboard sign from Halloween to Christmas. So, at Thanksgiving, when I had all my people here, the letterboard sign had a Halloween message instead of a Thanksgiving message.” [giggle]
“Here are the kids’ trees. They can decorate it however they like. Except I only gave them plain, boring ornaments for their trees. They didn’t choose any of their ornaments. Their ornaments don’t really reflect their personalities - because, guess what? I don’t really know my kids all that well.” [giggle]
“Oh, but, here’s MY tree in MY office. But, before you look at MY tree, check out all MY ribbons & medals! MY tree is colorful & fun & has ornaments that reflect my current hobby.” [giggle]
“And here is MY bedroom. I have cheerful, seasonal bedding. AND I got some new garland for MY bookshelves. I’m thinking of taking away one of the main trees from downstairs & putting it in MY bedroom.” [giggle]
“And here’s the ‘vintage’ tree downstairs. In the basement. Not counting MY Mickey Run tree, it’s the only tree in the house that’s really decorated, but it’s going to hide down here. In the basement. It’s the only tree that has any kind of personality, but, still, we keep it down here. In the basement. Where I’ll give it a passing glance on my way to my gym. And my kids will see it every now & then when they happen to be in the basement on the few occasions they’re here & awake.” [giggle]
“Also, let me make fun of my dead great grandmother & compare her to an old walnut.” [giggle]
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Who were the 8 adults - Jen, her parents, Scott & Bev… that’s 5… I guess Scott & Bev’s daughters too, but that’s 7? Or would the number have included Scott & Bev’s older son & his new wife?
And, if, indeed, there were 8 adults, how did those sides serve 8 adults, plus the kids? The sides looked like they served MAYBE 4-6. And Jen can’t even transfer the sides to nice serving dishes?
What is she trying to prove?
The jellied cranberry w/ ridges, I’ll give her… some people are really funny about their cranberry sauce. I make a really good homemade cranberry sauce, but I also serve the Ocean Spray jellied cranberry stuff too… because there are people in our family that HAVE to have the jellied stuff from the can - and it HAS to have the ridges. So, I slide it out of the can onto a serving plate, so those people can have their happy Thanksgiving w/ cranberry sauce w/ ridges from the can.
I’m just a sad 99%-er, but you better believe I set a nice table w/ actual, real plates & silverware, & all our sides are homemade & served in nice dishes & platters - and there is always plenty for everyone, not small, sad little containers of barely enough food.
And I always have fresh flowers as part of my centerpieces. And, instead of powder room candy, I have fresh flowers in the bathroom at the sink.
I literally would be appalled & so embarrassed to have people at my house for Thanksgiving & serve takeout sides in plastic containers.
Could you imagine traveling in from out of town & then being served a takeout Thanksgiving dinner?
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Scott: Bev wanted me to ask you if we can bring anything?
Jen: No, I’ve got the turkey, & I’ve ordered all the sides!
Scott: Uh… okay. What about dessert?
Jen: Oh, I was just going to pick up something at Trader Joe’s while I’m out.
Scott: Hmmm… Would it be okay if Bev maybe made a couple of pumpkin pies instead? It’s tradition for us.
Jen: [nostrils flaring] I guess… -
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And, for as much as she claims to LOVE wood-burning fires, she made, what?, one fire total in all her many car-camping trips?
Camping is just the quintessential time for a good, little fire - but not for Jen apparently. After that one time very early in her camping journey, she never made another one. -
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I don’t understand the point of a fire blazing cozily in a room w/ the bright, blaring overhead lights on.
For the love of all things good & holy, buy some lamps for soft, ambient lighting, Jen.
I can’t even tell you the last time we had the overhead lights on in our family room. -
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If it were some kind of weird dessert that she made vegan for absolutely no reason, I wouldn’t even stay long enough for dessert. -
.I’m behind and still catching up because I’ve been busy with life and my job - unlike Jen! My hope for the Boyles Thanksgiving is that the nephew and his new bride spend the day with HER family - I would not want as newly married couple to spend Thanksgiving with my husbands kookie weirdo aunt. Talk about having holidays as a couple start on the wrong foot - especially a bunioned foot haha.
And you absolutely KNOW that, if Jen’s nephew & his new wife are there, Jen will passively-aggressively at least once mention she had to do whichever Disney Run (can’t remember which one it was - Wine & Dine?) virtually instead of in-person due to their wedding conflicting w/ her race.
“But it was fine. It was totally fine.” -
.A couple things. The art she showed that was colorful and “ dog art” was snoopy art.
The only person who might have bought that was Don. Because he is that kind of guy.
Either way, they don’t belong in the dining room, nor does the stalker coffee dog art.
The stalker dog Montana art could possibly work in a kitchen nook, but she does not have one.
The ballroom room
Why get a carpet? The children have gotten splinters on their bare feet since they were teeny tiny tots. That is the way it is done.
The colorful dog art was Snoopy?!
See, I thought it was some kind of colorful pop art prints of abstract dogs.
Now I’m disappointed.
Because, while it’s not my style & I wouldn’t do dogs in the dining room, I was thinking that at least those prints were colorful &, if she INSISTS on hanging that dog drinking coffee print in the dining room, that it could sort of work.
Again, it’s not my style - but Jen is trying to be quirky & thinks she’s free & uncaged, so I could kinda see it to give the dining room some life & character.
But never mind.
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